Secret #19: Season 2 of Life's Dirty Little Secrets
SUMMARY
For season 2 of "Life's Dirty Little Secrets" podcast, hosts Chris McCurry and Emma Waddington express the importance of embracing our fallibility in a society that often rewards pretending to be perfect.
They give a sneak peek of the exciting conversations lined up for the upcoming season, featuring guests and topics such as Steve Hayes (myth of normalcy), Kristen Campbell (our sexual selves), Elisabeth Lahti (the Finnish concept of sisu), Dr. Zurita (the downsides of perfectionism), and Stephen Batchelor (the duality of good and evil) and more.
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[00:00:00] We are all very human and fallible, and yet we live in a society that rewards pretending we're not fallible. Or the range of acceptable fallibility is narrow. We are constantly comparing our insides to other people's outsides, and feeling inadequate and guilty, even ashamed. Trying to blend in means parts of ourselves must disappear, and we must then live in fear that we will be found out.
Here, together, we will create a space where we can laugh. We cry and carry our suffering and hurts lightly in the service of being deeply human. This is Life's Dirty Little Secrets.
Chris McCurry: Hello, this is Chris McCurry, and this is Life's Dirty Little Secrets.
Emma Waddington: And I'm Emma Waddington and so excited to be kicking off our second season. This is really, really fun.
Chris McCurry: We just wanted to do this brief [00:01:00] episode to give you all a taste of some of the things that are coming up in season two we're very excited about it.
Emma Waddington: Yeah, really excited. And before we do that, as we were reflecting on the end of season one, we recognize that we failed to, appreciate the fantastic Yael Schoenbrun and we feel terribly guilty about that. And although we've told her about it, we also wanted to make sure we recognize this in our first episode of season two, because it was such a fantastic podcast.
Emma Waddington: And she's been such a great supporter of the work that we do. So thank you, Yael. thank you for your generosity and your kindness as always.
Chris McCurry: And so, looking ahead. Interesting people lined up so far, and we'll be looking around for other topics and, and other folks to talk to, but, uh, we're gonna start off Season 2 with, uh, Steve Hayes, the [00:02:00] originator of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and he is, gonna talk about, the myth of normal, or there's no such thing as normal.
Chris McCurry: for all you statistical geeks out there, this will be fun.
Emma Waddington: Yes. What a way to kick off the season. it was a great conversation. We've already recorded it. and I'm so excited for it to get out there because it's, it's, it really is a myth and it is a dirty little secret that we all carry somehow we need to be normal. Um, and that somebody out there has it all figured out.
Emma Waddington: So great conversation, which you will all be listening to very shortly. And then the next conversation is with Kristen Campbell on our sexual selves. as the title goes, it is a pretty bold conversation, but a really important one. Um, and another dirty little secret, obviously.
Emma Waddington: Everything that has to do with our sexual selves feels quite dirty. yeah, Kristen, as always, as in our previous [00:03:00] season, is just such a wise, warm, validating person. she leads us. In the conversation, making us all feel very comfortable talking about our sexual selves.
Chris McCurry: And at some point, we will have, Elizabeth Lotte, who is, uh, an amazing psychologist in, uh, Helsinki. And she's going to be talking about the Finnish concept of sisu, or gentle power. And that will be a very interesting conversation.
Emma Waddington: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that. you know, busting another myth that power needs to be harsh and strong. instead she's done a lot of work and has discovered that, you know, true strength can be kind and gentle. So really looking forward to listening to what she has to say about that. and then we will be having a conversation with Dr.
Emma Waddington: Zurita, a Bolivian psychologist living in the U. S. on the downsides of perfectionism. And yeah, unpacking some of the [00:04:00] costs of the way we can. know, strive and life can get really tight for some of us when we are focused so much on outcomes. and it's highly encouraged in our communities and cultures to continue to strive.
Emma Waddington: And I think some of the costs aren't always apparent. And, it kind of feeds into some of the conversations that we had. last season, that we can often get stuck in this place where we need to continue to do, do, do, and that can lead to burnout. so yes, very much looking forward to that conversation and really unpacking some of those unhelpful striving that we can get into.
Emma Waddington: Thank you.
Chris McCurry: And then I am very excited, That we will have the privilege of talking with Stephen Batchelor, the, uh, noted Buddhist scholar. And he will be talking about good and evil, and how there is this tendency to split those, and to treat the world as if it were black and white, all or none, I'm good, you're [00:05:00] bad, that sort of thing.
Chris McCurry: And how we really need to think of these things as less dualities and more. You know, we can, we can hold both of these and, hold them lightly in a way that, allows us to, to live authentically and in harmony with ourselves and with one another. So that's going to be a great conversation, I know.
Emma Waddington: seems so relevant doesn't it. And it's such a difficult. place to stand in, this place where you can hold both, because we do like to think so binary. We do like to sort of put ourselves in one camp or the other at any one time. yeah. And it feels so, counterintuitive in a way that we can have both.
Emma Waddington: it's going to be a great conversation and feel so relevant at the moment. The world feels very polarized. So I look forward to this wisdom and, and he's somebody that I've been learning from for probably about almost 20 years. So I can't believe I'm actually getting to meet him, even if it's virtually, it's quite, quite the honor.
Emma Waddington: And then. [00:06:00] We will have a, I'd say a controversial conversation on a favorite child with Katie Palmer later on in the season. And yes, that's going to be a good conversation. I think We tend to want to push away from that thought of having a favourite child and creating a little bit more room and shedding some light to that dirty little secret.
Emma Waddington: it's going to be helpful.
Chris McCurry: only have one child, but there were times when he wasn't my favorite. Yeah.
Emma Waddington: I love that. Yeah, it's a big topic of conversation in my household. And I love the fact that my kids sort of regularly change who they think the favourite child is, depending on how they're feeling. Um, usually how they're feeling about me more than their siblings. So, yes. And that's just the beginning of the season.
Emma Waddington: We have a, a few more conversations to be had till the end of the year. so we will [00:07:00] continue to shed light, on life's dirty little secrets and hopefully sprinkle a little bit of. compassion and openness, in our community to be able to hold more lightly some of these really difficult, ideas, that we, we have and that we often share.
Emma Waddington: And I'd say that even this season, we've decided to go a little bolder, with some of the dirty little secrets that we'll be discussing.
Chris McCurry: it'll be, it'll be very interesting. And, for all of you who have listened and, and supported us, thank you from the bottom of our hearts because it's been an amazing journey and we look forward to continuing it in, uh, the next few months and, and beyond, hopefully.
Emma Waddington: That's right. And if anybody has an idea for the podcast, a dirty little secret that you think we should be talking about, please do send us an email or post it [00:08:00] on Instagram on one of the comments. we'd love to hear from you.
Chris McCurry: Yes. And again, you know, these are things that are. Little talked about, but universally held. our common humanity.
Emma Waddington: That's right. Yes, I can attest to that.
Chris McCurry: So, thank you again. And, please tune in.
Emma Waddington: That's right. We look forward to having you all for the rest of the season and beyond. Thank you for listening.
Chris McCurry: Thank you.
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